[text] is a horrible language. Its made more horrible by the fact that a lot of substandard programmers use it to the point where its much much easier to generate total and utter crap with it. Quite frankly even if the choice of y were to do nothing but keep the programmers out that in itself would be a huge reason to use y In other words the choice ofy15 the only sane choice. Ive come to the conclusion that any programmer that would prefer the project to be in R Y15 ST programmer that I really would prefer to piss off so that he doesnt come and screw up any project Im involved GAGH