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Startups then "Yeah we built the OS in our garage. You want better hardware? We'll build it this weekend" "How did I bootstrap? Just drove a taxi nights and weekends" "PMF? I just called up people from Yellowbooks until I found a problem worth solving" Startups now "oh this? its just a side project, i call it github" "being a founder is so hard, ive been attending 4 networking parties a day" "we have a pdf, we're raising 5 mil" "we hired 20 devs, we expect to find PMF in 6 months" "we bought the domain name and set up a DAO, brainstorming product ideas now"